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This is a discussion on When can I stop worrying about Sids? within the January 2008 - Polar Playmates forums, part of the Born in 2008 category; I'm thinking at around 6-8 months Lily will be able to move her head and neck really well. ...
I'm thinking at around 6-8 months Lily will be able to move her head and neck really well. I hope I can sleep at night then!
I have older family members telling me that they feel badly for girls having babies these days because we have become so fearful of everything! Women used to kiss their babies and put them down to sleep, and that was peaceful time!! Now, we have all of these fears and they can't cover up, cant have bumpers, no stuffed animals, no positioners...nothing, and we still are worried sick.
So here I go worrying again,
If and when I put Lily down in her crib how does she not roll around? How does she not get chilly without a blankie? Can she at least have a swaddle blankie?
Is it supposed to be just the mattress with a sheet and that's it?
I worked in an infant room at a preschool about 6 months before I got pregnant and there were babies that slept on positioners. Also, some parents insisted on having rolled up receiving blankets under one side of their baby. We also had a mommy that would bring in a shirt every day to lay down in her baby's crib for him to sleep with. They also got to use blankets.
This was a 5 star preschool in a very upscale area. These parents were paying mega bucks a week to have their kids there and this school followed very strict safety guidelines. Those kids slept just fine and had no problems. There was even one baby who would roll onto her tummy to sleep! (she was about 8 months old).
Granted, there were two of us teachers in the room and we could see all of the cribs, so maybe that's why, but those kids never got tangled up in their blankets, slept with loveys, and it was not an issue.
Anyway, I want to make sure Lily is going to be safe in her crib, but she really does not move at night. We still swaddle her and she stays on her back all night long.
Also, when she's in her crib should she be swaddled? I would think that having her hands free would actually help her to get our of trouble if she rolls over.
most occurences of sids happen in between 2-4 months but have know to have gone up to 1 yr of age.
luke slept in a sleep positioner until 8 months old when we feberized him, Logan will sleep in his positioner until we feberize him at 6 months old. at that time we also remove the crib bumper.
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I use a positioner and a blanket. If he dosen't have a positioner he rolls all over the bed. I put it around his hip area and then tuck in a blanket between him and the positioner. Neither of them are anywhere near his face. I took the bumper off, though.
Here is my thoughts on putting our kids to bed. I realize that sids is a real thing, my dh's youngest brother passed away only days short of 4 months so it is a reality in our lives. That being said I refuse to let fear rule me or my family. Right now because of Claire's very prominent flat spot on her head she is wedged between two rolled up blankets (even then she still manages to get onto the wrong side of her head) and I have always covered my kids with blankets. My middle son used to get caught in the crib bars and would wake up screaming in pain, we used bumpers and no problem, plus he loved snuggling right into it. I have heard of babies who love having their blankies over their faces, so those moms used blankies with holes (usually something someone knitted). My middle son also had a special stuffed dog he loved sleeping with, on his face no less. Now that was when he was a little older (7-8 months). So you can see that even with the fear I haven't always followed the "rules", but it was also a matter of sleep, I need it and so do they.
The sids thing scares me if I say the what ifs in my head and I just can't and don't. Every time it comes I say get lost. The reality is kids have died of sids lying on their backs in the middle of a crib with no blankets and no bumpers. I have also heard cases where newborns still in hospital die, and they are surrounded by health care people. I don't think anyone knows why and we just have to do the best we can to create a healthy environment. I'm doing the best for my kids and that doesn't mean it is the best for all kids kwim. Sorry I went on but I just wanted to share my thoughts and experiences.
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The sids thing scares me if I say the what ifs in my head and I just can't and don't. Every time it comes I say get lost. The reality is kids have died of sids lying on their backs in the middle of a crib with no blankets and no bumpers. I have also heard cases where newborns still in hospital die, and they are surrounded by health care people. I don't think anyone knows why and we just have to do the best we can to create a healthy environment. I'm doing the best for my kids and that doesn't mean it is the best for all kids kwim. Sorry I went on but I just wanted to share my thoughts and experiences.
I'm not worried about Lilu whatsoever. I break the rules with her sleep because; she sleeps on a pillow, on her side, with my arm around her, in the middle of our bed with our sheet & blankets.
Read this with EXTREME caution!!!!!! Highlight to read...I've posted it in white for those who don't want to be scared.
I will tell you a story though, it may upset everyone & my friend & the mother of the little boy live with what happened everyday.
My friend Sonya, runs a Daycare out of her home in Ft. Campbell. She puts all the babies to sleep the way the doctors tell you to put babies to sleep, on his back with no blankets, sheets, lovies, bumpers etc. This was no different than any other day, but when she went to wake up little Tyler he wouldn't wake up. His mother still blames her to this day that she did something wrong, but she didn't. It was investigated for weeks & Sonya did NOTHING wrong, but somehow something went wrong with 5 month old little Tyler's breathing. When they checked him it was later found out that it was caused by sleep apnea. It was horrible & I will NEVER forget that phone call for as long as I live.
I worried a lot with my first- Aidan. When he moved to his own room I slept on the floor for 6 weeks. When Nathan moved to his own room I swlept on the floor a week. And now that Valerie is sleeping through the night I moved her to her own room and never slept in there. With each child I can rest a little better. I just take all the precautions.
Aidan had a bummer in this crib until he was 2 yrs old- nothing else and was swaddled until 5 months.
Nathan had a bummer pad for 1 month and I took it our cause it can cause a SIDS risk, and he was swaddled for 5 months.
Valerie doesn't have anything in her crib and is swaddled.
I took a SIDS class for my daycare (I have 2 infants that nap in my care). You need to make the crib like a "russian orphanage" just a sheet and nothing else. I learned some babies are pre-contioned to have SIDS- so your job is to make it as rish free as possible. I never used a positioner for that reason. Plus the swaddle (Miracle Blanket) keeps them on their back. None of my children used a pacifer- so that wasn't something we did to combat SIDS.
With my 3rd child- bedtime is peaceful. I am not worried.
I still worry, after all I went through to get preggy and stay that way until she arrived I can't help it. I still wake up several times at night just to go check on her. I won't be ok until she is over her 1 yr old mark. s
I have read after a year then the risk for sids goes down. We took down the bumper, but only because I had to change the sheets and it was such a pain since the strings were tied to a lot of the wooden pole thingies . I honestly do not worry so much about sids. Landon loves to have his face nuzzled into the bumper, my arm, his swing, his carseat, etc. I won't let fear overcome me, and Landon seems to be sleeping better the way he is most comfortable.
i think if a baby is going to die from SIDS there's nothing you can really do to stop it (other than making her bed safe). i don't think it's worth worrying about b/c it's really out of our control. libby likes to put her lovey and burp cloth on top of her face when she naps in her swing.
now that BPA in bottles though...... :-) it's always something!!
i think if a baby is going to die from SIDS there's nothing you can really do to stop it (other than making her bed safe). i don't think it's worth worrying about b/c it's really out of our control. libby likes to put her lovey and burp cloth on top of her face when she naps in her swing.
This is true only b/c a lot of SIDS deaths are really suffocation. SIDS is death of unknown origin in a child under 1 generally. That's why all the warnings about blankets and pillows, it's not SIDS, it's suffocation they're warning about. In our state though, they don't distinguish between the 2, if a child dies in the bed while sleeping, it's automatically called SIDS no matter what. This is where all the sensational co-sleeping stories come from and how it increases SIDS, it doesn't though, unsafe co-sleeping (yes, there is safe co-sleeping) increases suffocation. Once a child is able to roll and lift their head up well etc, the risk of SIDS and even suffocation is greatly decreased. SIDS is officially the #1 killer of children under 1 though. My oldest son had a pillow from 4+ mos. He was given one when in the PICU and he liked it so he kept it. We didn't do this w/ the other 2 and even he doesn't use a pillow much now.
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My Mom is a Mom of nine kids and she said that all of her kids slept on their stomachs and in bed with her and it was fine, if you going to worry about every little thing you will get depressed like I did with my first child....
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I've also read, I think it was in my Dr. Sears baby book, that a lot of the unknown origin SIDS babys are babied that did have sleeping/breathing issues early on, like a sleep apnea, where they occasionally like to stop breathing for X number of seconds occasionally. It's in the book, but I just hopped on, waiting for the grill cleaner to work, I'll look it up later, probably tomorrow.
I, like a lot of new mommies checked Savannah's breathing CONSTANTLY. I even timed it. I even called the doc at midnight one night - because I thought she was breathing too fast (she wasn't, he was kind and explained the whole baby breathing irregular thing to me). She never stopped breathing, even for a few seconds, always breathes normal or "fast" - but not fast enough to be a problem.
Now, she sleeps in her own room, but we're still working on sleeping in the crib, not in the carseat in the crib. Since she likes sleeping on her side, I used to wedge a recieving blanket to her to keep her from wiggling, and because our house is drafty as all get out, I'd tuck a blanket tight. Only in the last week has she been able to pull the blankets out and over her head, and she does her squawk/yell, and we go and take it off. She does pull her burp cloth on her face and sleep that way.
We use a swaddle blanket, but Megan can flip onto her belly anyway. Scared the crap out of me the other morning when I went in and she was on her belly munching on the sheet. I want to stop swaddling since she is moving so much, she just sleep so well with it.
Poshie~The Anglecare monitor, while not foolproof, did make me sleep better at night with Adam. Megan has it also. If she would have stopped breathing that morning when she rolled on her tummy in the swaddle me, I would have had enough time to help her.
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