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Single and/or lesbian women using a sperm donor.

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Old 01-26-2007, 04:52 PM
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Default Single and/or lesbian women using a sperm donor.

Do you think this is okay? Do you think this will have impacts on the child? Would the impacts on the child (if any) be any different if a sperm donor was used in a heterosexual relationship? Do you think it would be better for a lesbian to use a "known" donor and have him play an active role in the child's life?
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Old 01-26-2007, 05:34 PM
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I don't think it matters as long as the child is in a loving family. Sometimes gay/lesbian familier are more 'suitable' parents then us straight folk. Now I am sure the child may have some difficulties growing up, but at least people are becoming a bit more tolerant of gay families. As long as the child is health and happy, then so should everyone else.
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Old 01-26-2007, 08:40 PM
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Default Re: Single and/or lesbian women using a sperm donor.

Do you think this is okay? No, I don't think it's okay.

Do you think this will have impacts on the child? HUGE impacts

Would the impacts on the child (if any) be any different if a sperm donor was used in a heterosexual relationship? Yes

Do you think it would be better for a lesbian to use a "known" donor and have him play an active role in the child's life? I don't think a lesbian should be raising children.
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Old 01-26-2007, 08:52 PM
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momof4boys,

You stated that you think the impact on the child would be different if a sperm donor was used in a heterosexual relationship. Do you think it is okay to use a sperm donor if a married couple has male factor infertility?
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Old 01-26-2007, 09:07 PM
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Are you talking about the man in a heterosexual marriage having infertility issues? If so, then yes, if that couple goes to a sperm donor I don't have a problem with that.
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Do you think this is okay? No, I don't think it's okay.

Do you think this will have impacts on the child? HUGE impacts

Would the impacts on the child (if any) be any different if a sperm donor was used in a heterosexual relationship? Yes

Do you think it would be better for a lesbian to use a "known" donor and have him play an active role in the child's life? I don't think a lesbian should be raising children.
Pray tell, why not?
Do you think she'll give her children "the gay"? Or, maybe they'll be so traumatized from having loving parents, that they'll go on to be productive members of society. THE ABSOLUTE HORROR!!

I've known many lesbian couples with children,a nd all of their children are well behaved , straight *gasp*(not that that matters), and do well. It's the children of the bigots I'm worried about.
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Old 01-26-2007, 11:53 PM
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Do you think she'll give her children "the gay"?
Being gay is a choice not something you "catch".

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It's the children of the bigots I'm worried about.
If following God's word makes me a bigot, then by golly I'm a proud bigot and I will be proud of my God following bigot children.

BTW, I'm not completely against gay marriage like I used to be. It is still a sin to sleep with someone of the same sex, but I've decided it isn't up to me to judge those who choose to sin.(call it a revelation) However, gay people raising children...that is something I WILL speak out against. Getting health/insurance benefits and raising chilren in gay households are 2 entirely different issues. I think all LEGAL Americans should get benefits no matter what lifestyle choices they make, but not all people should be allowed to have a child.
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I know it's not something you catch, I was being facetious.

If you don't believe they will make the child gay,then what is the issue. Do you speak out vehemently against sub par parents, single parents, or parents of a religion that is quite different than yours?

What are your reasons for wanting children out of gay households??
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Oh, and correction, it's not a choice. Being completely straight, you have no real knowledge to base this on, so I'll just take your opinion as ignorance
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Old 01-27-2007, 12:40 AM
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What are your reasons for wanting children out of gay households??
Do I really have to tell you? I believe(according to the Bible)that children should be raised with a mother and a father. Yes, there are single parents out there, I realize that. I don't believe that single woman who are straight should be adopting or having a baby through a sperm donor either. Would my reasons really matter to you? You have already determined I am a bigot, so what I say won't change that, and personally I don't care what you think of me.

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Oh, and correction, it's not a choice.
Well, it IS a choice, sorry. Call me ignorant(although as I have pointed out before, we are ALL ignorant of something....you are ignorant of me for example)I don't care. Like I said, if following God's word makes me that way, I am proud to be an ignorant bigot.
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Old 01-27-2007, 06:55 AM
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Of course it's a choice. Kim was speaking from experience. See, she admitted she felt a HUGE attraction for me a while back, but because she's married and "the Bible says so," she made the choice to stay with her DH.

At least SOME people know how to make the right choices. I mean who wouldn't choose a life of denigration, violence, and job loss over ... a safe life?
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Old 01-27-2007, 07:43 AM
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I don't worry about lesbians using sperm. Or any person who choses to use a sperm bank (or other gathering method). Those people WANT the baby.

I worry more about the Maury show syndrome. Making unwanted babies with unknown daddies.
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Old 01-27-2007, 07:59 AM
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I think all LEGAL Americans should get benefits no matter what lifestyle choices they make, but not all people should be allowed to have a child.
hmmm maybe you are on to something there. I'm sure we can think of all kinds of people who shouldn't have children. Would you be included in that?

It is not even worth going round and round with Kim on this issue. She picks and chooses what she wants to believe as she sees fit. She believes what she wants to, whether it is true or not.
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Old 01-27-2007, 08:04 AM
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Oh I forgot to answer since we have new people here. Yes I agree with single and/or lesbian women using a sperm donor. I also agree gay families.
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So, Kim, since you know it's a choice, you only find women attractive, but you chose to be straight, and be with a man for your religion. Even though you find sex with a man repulsive, and you'd rather be with a woman, you CHOOSE to be with a man?


So you really do know what you're talking about!

No? No feelings like that? Then no, you have no idea what you're talking about.
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Oh, and yes, we are all ignorant about many things. I'm ignorant about cars, NASCAR, Oncology, and many other things. I don't profess to know an absolute about them,though.
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Old 01-27-2007, 09:21 AM
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I mean who wouldn't choose a life of denigration, violence, and job loss over ... a safe life?
Yeah, those people who do drugs are sure choosing a "safe" life for themselves. Oh wait, maybe it isn't a choice, maybe they "caught" something that they had no control over. My bad. Sarcasm over...people make bad CHOICES all the time, regardless of consequences, so your argument doesn't mean anything.

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I'm sure we can think of all kinds of people who shouldn't have children. Would you be included in that?
And what exactly do you mean? Why would I be included?

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So, Kim, since you know it's a choice, you only find women attractive, but you chose to be straight, and be with a man for your religion. Even though you find sex with a man repulsive, and you'd rather be with a woman, you CHOOSE to be with a man?
Thank you so much, you made me laugh. See, I believe we were all created in God's image, and God would NOT create anyone to be with someone of the same sex. Why would He do that when He clearly states it is wrong? So no, I did not choose to be with a man, that is how God designed us. If I were to be with a woman it would be a choice.
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You obviously don't understand Unfortunately, people like you like to spread that lack of understanding. You don't know what it's like to only be attracted to women. I know it's sooo difficult to understand, as some people have trouble understanding that other people have different experiences, but it's out there.

Does the thought of doing things with a woman repulse you? Why would anyone choose that if they weren't naturally attracted? Why would they choose that when people like you want to make their lives hell? I cannot follow your train of "logic".

I have seen more "problem kids" come out of overly religious homes , than out of homosexual homes. Of course, your four boys are well behaved, respectful, and all of that... right?
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Old 01-27-2007, 09:45 AM
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Notice how Kim didn't deny she wants me.
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Old 01-27-2007, 09:58 AM
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You obviously don't understand
No it is you that seems to be lacking understanding. Or is it that you just don't care or respect the beliefs of other people. Ummmm, ignorant...isn't that the word you used on me. Before you judge me, take a long look in the mirror.

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Why would they choose that when people like you want to make their lives hell?
How am I making their lives hell? I'm not the one choosing how anyone lives. I'm not the one choosing who anyone sleeps with.

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Of course, your four boys are well behaved, respectful, and all of that... right?
Actually just 3 of them are very well behaved and respectful. With my oldest son, we did everything to keep him from making the choices he made, but nothing helped. The one thing we didn't do and regret, was talking to him more about God. That was a mistake. To be honest, I don't think even talking more about God would have helped. He chose his path and now he is paying the price.
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