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03-17-2006, 10:52 AM
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Quiverful...but come on!!
LINK from the Quiverful.com website
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Ten Great Reasons To Have Another Child
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- Have another child to join with God in the creation of an immortal soul.
Parents are given the incredible opportunity to assist God in the creation of an immortal soul. As the late Cardinal Mindszenty said, even the angels have not been given such a grace.
�The most important person on earth is a mother. She cannot claim the honor of having built Notre Dame Cathedral. She need not. She has built something more magnificent than any cathedral�a dwelling for an immortal soul, the tiny perfection of her baby�s body...Even the angels have not been given such a grace! What is more glorious than this�to be a mother.� Joseph Cardinal Mindszenty Reason
- Have another child to bring joy into your life.
There is no joy like the joy of welcoming another child into your life. You will marvel anew at how perfectly formed your little one is, and over how quickly you will fall head over heels in love with him. You will be enchanted with every tiny aspect of her appearance. The color of her hair, the shape of her nose, and the winsomeness of her smile will occasion endless happy debates about from which side of the family (yours, of course) she got that adorable trait.
The birth of a child will bind you to God more tightly than ever before, in awed gratitude. �She was the most miraculous thing that had ever happened in my life,� Whittaker Chambers wrote about his new daughter in Witness. And in the lives of most of us.
I thought that one day
I would be a famous artist
and create great works of art
Instead, God made me a mother,
and my children are His masterpiece.
The design of their lives
will live on after me.
What is painted on their hearts
will last an eternity
- Anonymous
- Have another child to grown in holiness and virtue.
For those who marry and have families, children are the primary means God uses to help them grow in holiness and virtue. Children teach their parents patience, perseverance, charity, and humility. They give their parents the opportunity to practice the corporal and spiritual works of mercy. They come into the world naked, and we clothe them, hungry and we feed them. Thirsty, and we give them drink. All of the things that we are required to do for the �least of these our brothers,� we do first and foremost for our own children. St. Catherine of Siena once had a vision in which God took her to a roomful of crosses and told her to pick one. St. Catherine went to the largest, heaviest cross in the room and would have chosen it. But God told her that it was not for her: That was reserved for the parents of large families.
�Mary gave birth to her first-born son and wrapped him in swaddling clothes.� Luke 2:7
- Have another child to help end abortion.
When Mother Teresa of Calcutta was asked by a young mother about the best way to proceed with pro-life work, she responded emphatically, �Have a big family. That is the best way to end abortion!�
How this works is not difficult to understand. As children become more rare due to contraception, sterilization and abortion, whole segments of society become less and less familiar with the sense of joy and hope that only babies and children can give. In this climate, contraception and abortion feed on themselves, as the increasingly selfish few further reduce their number.
By having another child, you demonstrate once again to the world that children are God�s greatest gifts. �Children build up the life of the family and society,� as Pope John Paul II has said. �The child becomes a gift to its brothers and sisters, parents and entire family. Its entire life becomes a gift for the very people who were givers of life and who cannot help but feel its presence, its sharing in their life and its contribution to the common good and to the community of the family.�
The more children there are in society, the more pro-life that society will become, and the easier it will be for the great evil of abortion to be eradicated once and for all.
�Choose life, then, that you and your descendants may live.� Deuteronomy 30:19
- A) Have another child so your sons will have brothers and your daughters will have sisters.
Children who have siblings learn early to share. They learn to take turns and to put the needs of others before their own. The bond formed between brothers and sisters is lifelong, and stronger than the bond between the closest friends.
�How good it is, how pleasant, where the brothers dwell as one!� Psalm 133:1-2
B) Have another child so your sons will have sisters and your daughters will have brothers.
Boys who have sisters learn the dignity of women. They learn to treat other girls and women with respect, as they consider how they would like their own sisters to be treated. Girls who have brothers learn the complementarity of men and women, both fashioned in the image and likeness of God.
�Love begins by taking care of the closest ones�the ones at home.� Mother Teresa
- Have another child so you (and your parents) won�t be lonely in old age.
People who have children don�t have to rely upon strangers to care for them in their old age. Children also become the parents of your grandchildren. Grandchildren bring joy, happiness, and laughter, while still allowing you to get a good night�s sleep! �Grandchildren are the crown of old men, and the glory of children is their parentage.�Proverbs 17:6
- Have another child because people are our greatest resource.
Humans are blessed with the gifts of an intellect and free will. It is human ingenuity that discovers creative solutions to the problems which confront us. People without children should remember that it will be someone else�s child who will become the doctor that performs their life-saving operations. Someone else�s child will become the firefighter that saves their house. Someone else�s child will become the railroad engineer.
�How can there be too many children? That�s like saying there are too many flowers.�
Mother Teresa
- Have another child to contribute to the economy.
Families with children are fuel to the economy, purchasing houses and cars and college educations. Without young people to enter the workforce, social security systems fail. Without children to attend school, teachers are jobless. Many industries, from fast food restaurants to toy stores, obviously rely heavily upon business from and for children to stay in business. But ultimately the whole economy does.
�Like a fruitful vine your wife within your home, Like olive plants your children around your table. Just so will they be blessed who fear the Lord.� Psalm 128:3-4
- Have another child to counter global depopulation.
Anyone who has traveled from coast to coast in the United States and seen the vast empty spaces should know that America is not overpopulated. In fact, the entire population of the world could live in the state of Texas, in single-family dwellings with front and back yards. Fertility rates are falling everywhere. The world�s population will never again double. If current trends continue, world population will peak by the middle of this century and then begin demographic freefall. Our long-term problem is not too many children, but too few children. Having another child will help offset the coming population implosion.
�Be fruitful and multiply; fill the earth.� Genesis 1:28.
- Have another child to help populate heaven.
The child that you and your spouse have been generous in accepting from God was created to return to Him, after a life of love, service, and obedience on earth, to spend eternity with God in heaven. Our Lord Himself said that there was plenty of room for those immortal souls. There is no overpopulation problem in Heaven!
�There are many mansions in my Father�s house.� John 14:2
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Let me start by saying, ok, great, have a bunch of kids if you want to. That is wonderful! I just found this article and some of the reasons to have another kid WAAAAYYYYY out there...
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03-17-2006, 11:15 AM
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Re: Quiverful...but come on!!
Is this person off their rocker? Yikes! I think my favorites are number 9 and 10. I think number 10 might back fire on them, because someone this extreme is sure to wind up with a few atheist or (worse yet) liberal Christians on their hands.
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03-17-2006, 11:19 AM
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Re: Quiverful...but come on!!
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How this works is not difficult to understand. As children become more rare due to contraception, sterilization and abortion, whole segments of society become less and less familiar with the sense of joy and hope that only babies and children can give. In this climate, contraception and abortion feed on themselves, as the increasingly selfish few further reduce their number.
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What planet does this loony person live on?
Maybe we should force people to have more children, too. I mean how selfish can you be to not have children, or only have one, or two, or three...blah blah blah
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the entire population of the world could live in the state of Texas, in single-family dwellings with front and back yards. Fertility rates are falling everywhere. The world�s population will never again double. If current trends continue, world population will peak by the middle of this century and then begin demographic freefall. Our long-term problem is not too many children, but too few children. Having another child will help offset the coming population implosion.
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Let's calculate that - and please feel free to correct my mathematical mistakes - I'm terrible at math.
Population of the world: 265 billion (according to Wikipedia) or 265,000,000,000
Land area of Texas: 261,914 sq miles or 7,302,000,000,000 square feet
Dividing land area (sq. ft.) by global population = 27.55 sq. ft./person = a 5.25 ft. x 5.25 ft. plot of land for each person in the world
A decent plot of land with front and back yards is what... 5,000 sq. ft.? I personally think a plot 7,000 sq. ft. is small, but we'll go with 5,000. For comparison, my house sits on 0.25 acres, which is just under 11,000 sq. ft.
So, that would be 5,000 sq. ft. divided by 27.55 sq. ft. = 181 people would have to live on 5,000 sq. ft. of land. That's some big family.
Is that correct?
What a nut. I'm no fan of abortion, but that was utter crap.
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03-17-2006, 12:00 PM
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Re: Quiverful...but come on!!
Well I guess I will be just a little on the outside here and say I didn't think it was all that loony...we have a big family (this will be #8 total for our family)...but I don't think big families are for everyone....nor am I doing it for some of the reasons listed (I am not doing it for ...#'s 10,9,8,4,3 and 1  )
Maybe I missed something but I didn't read it as saying everyone should believe this.
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03-17-2006, 12:48 PM
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Re: Quiverful...but come on!!
11) Sixteen kids = $16,000 child tax credit for 2006!
12) Constant pregnancy means tampon savings.
13) Can train legions of children to perform entertaining "auf weidersehen, adieu" song from Sound of Music.
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03-17-2006, 01:33 PM
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Re: Quiverful...but come on!!
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13) Can train legions of children to perform entertaining "auf weidersehen, adieu" song from Sound of Music.
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roflmao
That is reason enough alone. Think of the fun it would be at parties....
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03-17-2006, 01:36 PM
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Re: Quiverful...but come on!!
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11) Sixteen kids = $16,000 child tax credit for 2006!
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That all depends on your tax bracket...we get cut off at 4 kids.
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03-17-2006, 01:54 PM
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SKLoyal
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Re: Quiverful...but come on!!
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Originally Posted by Jescafa
12) Constant pregnancy means tampon savings.
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And most likely reparative surgery for that gaping hole we'd like to call a vagina.
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03-17-2006, 02:36 PM
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Re: Quiverful...but come on!!
I think they F***n' nuts. Then again I'm not a big fan of large families. I hated being the 3rd of 4 children.
So if these people ran into a women on welfare having her 10th kid, would they happily pay taxes to support her?
All I know is they better not be complaining about having to pay higher property taxes to educate all those little babies they want.
But if these people want to all cram into Texas, be my guest. I'm staying far far away in Seattle.
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03-17-2006, 05:44 PM
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Re: Quiverful...but come on!!
If life begins at conception, then wouldn't the 10th point support embryonic stem cell research and abortion? Fertilize the egg, kill the embryo, it goes straight to heaven. Bypass the middleman!
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03-17-2006, 09:42 PM
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Re: Quiverful...but come on!!
crkramp was kind enough to point out I messed up!
Global population is 6.5 billion NOT 265 billion. DUH!
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03-17-2006, 10:17 PM
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Re: Quiverful...but come on!!
I have nothing against families who choose to have large families as long as they are not on welfare and are just having more kids to get more from the state. I understand some people believe in letting God decide their family size, I personally believe God gives us the desire to have kids or not. For me, 4 is enough and we believe God has taken away that desire. If that makes sense.
On an 'off topic' note. I may have missed the announcement, so this may be late but I want to say....CONGRATS to Camille on the birth of your baby boy!!! I noticed your signature.
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03-17-2006, 11:59 PM
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Re: Quiverful...but come on!!
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Originally Posted by roxrkool
And most likely reparative surgery for that gaping hole we'd like to call a vagina. 
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I guess fisting could be fun....
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03-18-2006, 02:39 PM
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SKImpressive
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Re: Quiverful...but come on!!
I'm not going to plan to have more kids than I can afford, it's the responsible thing to do.....if God wants me to keep having more then I'll gladly hand over all my bills to Him so I can stay at home.
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03-18-2006, 02:43 PM
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SKImpressive
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Re: Quiverful...but come on!!
Oh, I also like their motto of "Screw more to end abortion".  I guess someone didn't think things through too well before writing that article....or they took a stupid pill that morning.
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03-18-2006, 05:58 PM
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Re: Quiverful...but come on!!
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CONGRATS to Camille on the birth of your baby boy!!! I noticed your signature.
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Thanks Kim! (you did not miss an announcement..I don't think i made ne ont his board.)
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