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Old 03-18-2008, 07:12 AM
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Okay, so I've read through it and all I can say is if you get it and discover that you're allowed to eat an UNLIMITED amount of ding dongs, chocolate mini donuts, Cadbury creme eggs, chocolate covered marshmallow bunnies for easter, etc., etc. and STILL lose weight b/c you're consuming them at *different* times of day while washing down with regular Pepsi... DEFINITELY let me know!! That is the kind of diet I could really, really get into!! But if you have to eat larger meals in the morning, consume more fresh fruits & vegetables, drink more water and have scheduled snacks, etc. (eating even if you're not hungry), I'd just as soon save the $$ and pass on that one. I know LC *does* work no matter what they say - the fact that they repeatedly say it's a "fact" that it doesn't work is how I know whatever they're selling is a lie - they have no problem lying on every single page when addressing the low carb aspect, so how could I believe what they're selling is real/true?
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It says that low carb diets don't work... but it is a low carb diet. I didn't read the entire site... but from what I have read about low carb is you have to remain on it (or maintenance) to keep the weight off because many people do gain it back. But this is with every diet.

Actually, it uses vegetables, fresh fruits, lean meats and fish, nothing processed and bad. No carbs are on it... just fruits. There is one day in the 11 days that they allow you to eat a sandwich but it has to be oat or bran bread.

I know that low carb diets work... Its the only diet that has taken weight off of me.

I read a bunch of reviews on it because when I went to the site I am like "yea right!"

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"Like the 'Biggest Loser' TV Show, most contestants often lose weight 'fast' during the early stages of a diet program.

This is due to the body system being 'shocked' or stressed to a different environment to what it is used to; less starchy carbs and more exercise.

The human body is quite clever, and often after the initial stress, the body adapts to the new environment or remains in a comfort 'Zone' and often the weight loss slows before a new set of program is introduced.

Similarly Fat Loss 4 Idiots will calculate for you the best diet to help you lose weight (in just 11 days) and rotate the diet, and calorie eating pattern to encourage the body to burn more calories and fat.

Better yet, with the diet rotation, you will not get bored but teach your body to burn faster. More importantly, Fat Loss 4 Idiots Diets aim is to trick the body's metabolism to burn more fat.

And so after each meal your body will produce a greater quantity of Fat Burning Hormones -- while Fat Storing Hormones are MINIMIZED as much as humanly possible.

For example, if your body was taking in 3,000 calories a day and then suddenly the calorie intake was reduced to 1,500 calories, your body firstly will be shocked with the calorie difference, but then have to look burn energy elsewhere, which is often fat!"

"It is a reduced carbo-hydrate diet with nutritional value. There are 4 meals in a day, with a minimum of 2.5 hours between each meal and no meal is the same!

And so, there's no eating chicken or fish every day.

The diet offers a solid variety of meals, so you're eating different foods every day, and with four meals daily, you won't get hungry or lethargic.

With such a balanced, varied diet, you will stimulate more fat burning metabolism, which should help you lose some extra pounds.

Unlike other diet programs, Fat Loss 4 Idiots does not not worry about calorie or carb counting, and no limit on portion size. The aim is to just eat short of being full."

"Nutritionally it is a reduced carb diet that tries to work your metabolism more efficiently. It contains only whole foods (no processed foods, no high-sugar foods, or no supplements)."

I have read hundreds of reviews and people who have used it because apparently its like BIG thing on the internet. I cant find really anything that says that it doesn't work.

I know the site is unappealing. I was hesitant to post it. I haven't read it all though... I know it talks about the low carber and low fat diet and all that. That turned me away too. But I started reading the reviews and got interested.

I have to go to the grocery story but I will post later.
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Oh yea... you can't unlimited junk. You eat what it says... which is healthy foods, until you are satisfied and not stuffed. Anyway... gotta go!
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No carbs are on it... just fruits
I meant no pasta or rice... oops No corn, peas, or potatoes either!


Ok... I am back from the store and settled. Throughout the course of 11 days it is lower carbs than a person not dieting takes in. The carbs/sugars are from fruits and veggies. Your fats come from things like eggs and cottage cheese. I know that on other typical low carb diets you do not eat fruit because of the sugars. You “just eat short of being full”.

It looks like you have one day of primarily proteins, then the next day is a lot of fruit. Then each day is a mixture I *think*.

Its not a bad diet. It really isn't.

As far as what it says about exercise...

It says while on THEIR diet you should do brisk walking or some light cardio to burn fat. They do say that sit ups wont produce the results that you want until the belly fat is off. The muscles are under the fat. I do know that intense exercise does build muscle but it burns a lot carbs. Things like walking and some aerobics... things that get you breathing a little harder and your heart rate up burns more fat. They are saying to do these types to maximize the weight loss.

In my opinion though, exercise is exercise. Its going to produce results if you stick with it. I know that I don't have this sore body for NOTHING.

Whoever created this diet is trying to grab attention and sell the diet... of course. The site is making the diets like Atkins and South Beach appear that they do not work but I know they do too. I know many many people say that you gain weight when you go off. But with ANY diet, you have to make a lifestyle change to keep it off and you should exercise regularly. You cannot go on a strict diet and lose weight and expect to go off and eat like you did before you starting dieting.

I do have 2 other friends that have tried the Atkins and said that they got way too tired and could not stick with it. They complained of headaches and everything else. Its not for everyone... that is for sure. It takes a lot of will power to diet let alone for someone who loves carbs have to give them up. I don't know how I will function on 20g of carbs but I would do it to lose weight! As long as I can have meats I will be fine! Experts say your brain needs 100g to function but I dont believe that is true for everyone. I went on the South Beach and thats really restricted for the first 2 weeks. You body can function period of time. Isnt the induction for Atkins 2 weeks? I wish I would have stuck with the SB because it works! At least for me it did! I totally lost motivation... like 25 lbs is a reason to lose motivation?

I remember when I went on the SB Diet people would say "Thats not good for your kidneys" I was like whatever... I am fine and my kidneys are fine for the two weeks I am doing this. With all the water I drink my kidneys are just fine

As far as a diet with ding dongs and all the other stuff you mentioned . Can you imagine? I don't eat that stuff anyway. Maybe a Caramel Cadberry egg at Easter. (not this year though)

Okay, so maybe if you eat every single thing exactly right, you won't be fat, but will you build lean muscle, be in shape and/or firm in any capacity? And how many people do you know who are serious about exercising but still pig out on eating whatever they want?? I know quite a few. Exercise increases your metabolism and a higher metabolism means you burn the calories consumed plus you tone your muscles, etc., right? So while I agree that you don't get fat b/c of a lack of exercising, I think it's false to imply you could be thin without any type of exercising (assuming you want to be *healthy*, not a skeleton with slack skin hanging off your body).
Totally agree! You have to incorporate exercise when losing weight. In fact, everyone should exercise. All the beautiful celebrities with those awesome bodies out there work out... you can best believe that. You can't achieve a body like that without working out.

My goal is to be slim but I want to be curvy... like I used to be. I want to have some definition to my muscles. I have never had a belly and have never been overweight. I gained so much weight with Madison and gained it in different places than what I did with my boys. Then 16 months later I was pregnant again with Miss Rylee. I do have a belly now. Not too bad but its there. I have a lot of weight to lose. It is definitely harder than it used to be.

To sum it up (and shut my mouth) I know low carb works. Its worked for me. I have seen plenty of people do it. All those white carbs are BAD for the body anyway... white sugar is the devil I just found this diet (FL4I) interesting after I read all the reviews about it. I know that their web site sucks really bad. I don't know who the author is.

hope I didn't offend

BTW, my best friend has been on Atkins for over a year. She eats carbs but they come from whole grain and she eats sensibly. If she wants to cheat every now and then she does. She recently gained like 8 lbs and went back on the induction. She does that every know and then. She looks good but is a little flabby... she didnt exercise
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Old 03-18-2008, 09:48 PM
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Oh, one more thing

The meals are not scheduled. You eat when you want, 4 times a day, and it must be at least 2.5 hrs apart. Anyway... enough of this diet I guess.

My cousin bought it. She's going to give it a try. We'll see what happens. If she has success then I will probably try it.

I have been doing South Beach sort of I don't know how to start Atkins. I need to get info and read about it. I am still nursing and don't want to affect my supply. Didn't you say your supply was ok??

How many carbs do you eat Teresa?
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My God, Debbie, if my husband ever read the boards, I believe he'd be saying, "Honey, you've met your match!" I thought *I* was chatty I love it, though!

And I wasn't trying to say you shouldn't check out the diet if you were interested, but reading their site was kind of offensive to me when it seemed like quite a few out & out lies. Even after what you're saying, it sounds like they're taking parts of other programs, repackaging & trying to sell as their own. And, of course, if people are eating low carb, they *would* be having success. But if you can get it for free from your cousin, that might make it worth trying - after all, maybe having such a regimented schedule would work for some. Personally, I have a hard enough time remembering to give Mason his meds at certain times of day - I cannot fathom watching the clock and going, "Oh crap, I'm supposed to be eating right now b/c it's been 2.5 hours!" I prefer eating when I'm hungry - some days it's eating very little, other days (like yesterday), I'm a bottomless pit.

As for milk supply, I haven't had a problem yet, but I know a lot of women on the LCF site said their supply diminished and/or vanished when they went LC. The way I look at it is I've nursed for 21 months now - if my supply goes away so I can lose weight & be healthier, that's a really small price to pay. I guess it'd be kind of an easy way to wean, too - if my supply gradually decreases, he may start to cut out some of the feedings and eventually wean altogether if I lose all my milk instead of trying to go cold turkey on him or something.

Anyway, I'm at 20g/carbs per day or less on most days. Granted, I've gone over some days, but not by a lot - plus, I've been doing this for over 2 months now. On days when I've gone over, I commit to be completely back on plan the next day and that seems to be working.
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Old 03-19-2008, 10:52 AM
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Yes... I do tend to ramble.

You can eat whenever you want on it as long as it is AT LEAST 2.5 hours in between and you get the 4 meals in. You do need to stop before you get stuffed. I do tend to eat until I am FULL if its something I really like.

The way I look at it is I've nursed for 21 months now - if my supply goes away so I can lose weight & be healthier, that's a really small price to pay. I guess it'd be kind of an easy way to wean, too - if my supply gradually decreases, he may start to cut out some of the feedings and eventually wean altogether if I lose all my milk instead of trying to go cold turkey on him or something.
I feel this way too. But believe it or not I get nervous because she IS my last baby I wont be nursing anymore little ones.

I can see where that site is offensive. I found it that way too. Like I said, it wasn't until I read reviews that I became a little interested. They make is sound like that they have the perfect thing going on. Its suppose to spark your metabolism to speed up and burn fat with different food combinations and by not getting into a "pattern" of the same foods every day. You are suppose to go off of it for 3 days and eat sensibly and then if you want you can go back on it for another 11 days.

I personally love low carbing. I love meat and veggies!

Just curious... when you stop eating for the day? I tell you... I could follow any diet in the world during the day. My weakness is in the evening. I absolutely LOVE tortilla chips and salsa. I make my own salsa. My friend that does Atkins get no/low carb tortillas and cuts them with a pizza slicer in wedges and fries them and makes her own. Sounds like an awesome idea, eh? I want to try it.

Do you have any tricks to eat things like tortilla chips. Oh... are tomatoes restricted on Atkins?

In first LONG post that I typed yesterday... I copied and pasted a lot of that info. But the second long post I became really long winded!! :blabber
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when you stop eating for the day?
When DO you stop eating for the day?
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