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Votes found on machines before polls opened in Philly

This is a discussion on Votes found on machines before polls opened in Philly within the Republicans Only forums, part of the Emphatic Empire category; I think this is the beginning of a long day...or days... Before voting even began in Philadelphia -- poll watchers ...

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Old 11-02-2004, 07:48 AM
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Default Votes found on machines before polls opened in Philly

I think this is the beginning of a long day...or days...


Before voting even began in Philadelphia -- poll watchers found nearly 2000 votes already planted on machines scattered throughout the city... One incident occurred at the SALVATION ARMY, 2601 N. 11th St., Philadelphia, Pa: Ward 37, division 8... pollwatchers uncovered 4 machines with planted votes; one with over 200 and one with nearly 500... A second location, 1901 W. Girard Ave., Berean Institute, Philadelphia, Pa, had 300+ votes already on 2 machines at start of day... INCIDENT: 292 votes on machine at start of day; WARD/DIVISION: 7/7: ADDRESS: 122 W. Erie Ave., Roberto Clemente School, Philadelphia, Pa.; INCIDENT: 456 votes on machine at start of day; WARD/DIVISION: 12/3; ADDRESS: 5657 Chew Ave., storefront, Philadelphia, Pa... MORE... A gun was purposely made visible to scare poll watchers at Ward 30, division 11, at 905 S. 20th St., Grand Court. Police were called and surrounded the location... Developing...

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Old 11-02-2004, 10:11 AM
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Default Re: Votes found on machines before polls opened in Philly

Ugh. I hope not. I want this over!
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Old 11-02-2004, 12:11 PM
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I wonder who those votes were for.
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Old 11-02-2004, 12:35 PM
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Default Re: Votes found on machines before polls opened in Philly

Thank God they are being found out. I don't put anything past some people.
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Old 11-02-2004, 01:27 PM
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Default Re: Votes found on machines before polls opened in Philly

Yup...I'm anxious to see if any charges will be pressed on anyone.
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Old 11-02-2004, 02:33 PM
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Default Re: Votes found on machines before polls opened in Philly

While the investigation has hardly even started, one possibility that has been raised has been that the number they saw was recording the total number of votes cast on that machine, ever. It's not unthinkable that these machines would be equipped with a sort of odometer like you're car, where you see the total miles ever traveled and then the miles traveled since you reset your trip odometer.
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Old 11-02-2004, 02:41 PM
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Default Re: Votes found on machines before polls opened in Philly

Oops, looks like there's an update.
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PHILADELPHIA - An army of political operatives descended on polling locations around the state Tuesday, looking for any signs of voting irregularities, and election officials planned to spend the day investigating fraud allegations.

Republican observers in Philadelphia lodged some of the earliest complaints, claiming that voting machines in the city already had thousands of votes recorded on them when the polls opened at 7 a.m.

City election officials and the district attorney rushed to some of the precincts in question, and quickly said the GOP poll watchers had gotten it wrong.

Deputy City Commissioner Ed Schulgen and Cathie Abookire, a spokeswoman for District Attorney Lynne Abraham, said the observers had pulled the numbers from an odometer that records every vote ever cast on the machine in every election - and not the counter that records how many votes have been cast in this election.

"It's absolutely ridiculous," Schulgen said.
http://www.kansas.com/mld/kansas/new...4/10078685.htm
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Old 11-02-2004, 02:53 PM
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Default Re: Votes found on machines before polls opened in Philly

Well, I certainly hope that was the case.
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Old 11-02-2004, 02:53 PM
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Election Protection is reporting lots of other problems as well. According to Ralph Neas, president of People for the American Way Foundation, the group that organized the Election Protection coalition, men in dark suits and "law enforcement insignia" have been intimidating voters waiting in line in Philadelphia. When a group of filmmakers organized by Joan Sekler, director of "Unprecedented," a documentary about the 2000 election, started filming them, they jumped in a van and spend away. It sounds like something out of the "French Connection," Neas said, but it's really happening. "This day has already had innumerable shameful incidents," he said.

Then there are the dirty tricks which have been cropping up all over the country. In Milwaukee today, Election Protection reports that African American voters received automated phone calls reminding them to vote on November 3. In Ohio and Michigan, automated phone calls allegedly from the Teamsters Union have been directing people to the wrong polling places. In Tuscon, Arizona, Arnwine said, calls telling people to vote on November 3 were traced back to the local Republican party.
http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/

I'm anxious to see if any charges will be pressed on anyone.
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Old 11-02-2004, 03:01 PM
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Default Re: Votes found on machines before polls opened in Philly

WOW. Well I was at a phone bank and we were telling everyone reguardless of who they were voting for that the election is Tuesday and voting is from 6:30am-7:30pm. Didn't matter if they said kerry- I told them right. I believe in voting.

BTW- we had tons of black people at my polling station that had no problems; except the Kerry people trying to get them to come over before they voted to 'talk'.
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