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Old 10-14-2004, 05:15 AM
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Hay, CNN proclaimed Bush the winner! CNN!
I was watching FoxNews and the post debate panel all said Bush won. Bill Kristol said Kerry was a "flat out knock out"! Fred Barnes said he was keeping track of the twenty questions and Bush won outright most of them and maybe 6 or 7 were tied. Mort Kondracke said Kerry was on the defensive a lot and said he was a clear winner. These guys were all pretty hard on Bush in the first debate and were neutral in the second but called him a clear winner last night.

Were you all thinking that while you were watching? I'm always anxious to hear the "post mortem" and was surprised so many claimed it a clear win. Of course, I was thinking he was winning for the 90 mins. but I thought he did good in the first one too
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Old 10-14-2004, 06:23 AM
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Hey but .. of course the polls today are not going to reflect this... Then again a DNC person slipped up in a Greta interview last night on Fox News and said the Dems have gotten good at "poll packing"... Explains alot...
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Old 10-14-2004, 07:09 AM
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I knew it! I was just talking with dh during dinner about the libs packing the polls. I pay as little attention as possible to network news polls right now.

CNN said that? They must have been bighting their tongues really hard.

I was thinking Bush was at his best in this series of debates. I thought sKerry won the first debate, but he had notes. Bush stunk during the first debate, which makes me believe he was not wired like the libs want people to believe. I think the photo with a bulge on his back was fabricated.
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Old 10-14-2004, 07:37 AM
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WOW I can't believe CNN said that! I did see the post debate show on FOXNews! I thought Bush just walked all over Kerry!!!
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Old 10-14-2004, 07:40 AM
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Methinks I heard wrong (must've been before the coffee) I just checked cnn.com and it looks like it was 59 to 32 over Bush. Oh I believe the polls were packed. Terry Mcauliffe, the chairman of the Democratic National Committee sent out millions of emails encouraging people to vote in hundreds of on-line polls right after the debate. Check this out:

Dear _______,

An "online coup d'etat." That's how CBS News described your efforts after the debate last Thursday.

John Kerry did his part with a powerful performance that showed America they can expect strong and principled leadership when he is our commander-in-chief. But it was your efforts that kept the Republicans from spinning their way to victory.

Now we need your help again. Tonight, John Edwards and Dick Cheney will meet for the only vice presidential debate of the campaign. Once again, we need you to take action the moment they leave the stage.

There are four critical things you can do to help beat the Republican spin machine.

Forward this email to family, coworkers, and friends.
Vote in online polls.
Write a letter to the editor.
Call radio and television stations.
Your 10 minutes of activism following the debate can make the difference. It is important that we double our efforts from the last debate, because the Republicans are now copying our strategy.

Vote in Online Polls
National and local news organizations will be conducting online polls during and after the debate asking for readers' opinions. Look for online polls at these news websites, and make sure to vote in every one of them:

CNN: www.cnn.com/
MSNBC: www.msnbc.msn.com/
Wall Street Journal: www.wsj.com/
LA Times: www.latimes.com/
Akron Beacon-Journal: www.ohio.com/
Minneapolis-St. Paul Star-Tribune: www.startribune.com/
Orlando Sentinel: www.orlandosentinel.com/
Philadelphia Inquirer: www.philly.com/
South Florida Sun-Sentinel: www.sun-sentinel.com/
And be sure to check the websites of your local newspapers and TV stations for online polls. It is crucial that you do this in the minutes immediately following the debate.

Make sure swing voters know why you support John Kerry by sharing your thoughts on message boards in target states. Visit our 2004 Debate Center after the debate for a list of message boards where you can fight the Republican spin. If you visit chat rooms on AOL, MSN, Yahoo, or other websites, be sure to let people know what you thought of the debate.

Write a Letter to the Editor
Immediately after the debate, go online and write a letter to the editor of your local paper. If you feel John Edwards presented an optimistic vision for the next four years, put it in your letter. If you feel Dick Cheney failed to explain the last four years of failed policies, put it in your letter.

Writing a letter is easier than you think. It takes just a few minutes and just a few clicks using our online media center:

www.democrats.org/media/

Call Radio and TV Stations
TV and radio coverage immediately following the debate is where much of the spin is cemented. Make sure you call radio and TV stations to tell them what you thought.

Find shows in your area on our media website:

www.democrats.org/media/find.html

Also...
Don't forget to visit our 2004 Debate Center before, during, and after the debate for important information and more ways to take action.

www.democrats.org/debates/

Thank you,


Terry McAuliffe
Chairman

PS: Make sure to forward this email to at least 10 other people who will be watching the debate. Also, print out copies for your friends, family members, coworkers and neighbors and get them involved.
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