Holy crud! Since when is progressive christians board "other"????



I find that SO f-ing offensive. I hope you are plannign on changing the BAC board too. They need some non-descript, offensive, inclusive title too.

Honestly...porgressive xianity is so different from conservative xianity...huge differences...

If we are going to have a non-denominatioal board...fine....one for discussion and fellowship, etc....

but now the progressive board is no longer a safe haven for those of us too liberal for the other boards....


I mean, I will discuss and fellowship with others (even super conservative folks)...but why does the BAC board get to have their own conservative support area and us proggies don't?


I would rather not have a board than be an "other".

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Camille,
The BAC group is a LARGE group so they are seperated out. AS is the Cathoilic group. There are many more groups that are Christian and we can not 50 Christian groups. So we combined - the other Christian groups need a place to post too. So if you can come up with a way that ALL Christians groups have a place, please let me know. I am open to suggestions. You can always skip the post that dont have to do with progressive..

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The Catholic board has 6 more post than we do...and they have been in operation at least a month longer (if not more) than our board.


And it WAS at one point multi-denominational...a place for any Christian....and NO ONE posted there. it ONLY became active when it went to progressive....

I am not asking for a board for every denomination. But BAC and Progressive are THEOLOGICAL distinctions. Both boards are multi-denominational. Most Christians would identify with one or the other.
The only ones that might NOT fit would be the moderate Christians..

So you could have 3 christians boards...

Conservative, Moderate, and Progressive.

All demonination (Baptist, Methodist, Catholic, non-denom, Lutheran, etc) could find a home in one of those three boards.

But what you have done is given all CONSERVATIVES one board (regardless of denomination). Segregrated one denomination from everyone else (the Catholic board) and then opened one board to include everyone from the most conservative to the most liberal.

So...the only group that does not have a board to be with like minded people is the Progressives.

Back on the old boards...the Multi-denominational board was actually very conservative. Quite a few of the BAC girls posted on both boards. Which is FINE. But it meant that there was no "safe haven" for the more liberal minded folks. They had no board where they could discuss liberal theologies and faith without having conservative share their opinion.

The BAC board is as large and close as it is because they are able to fellowship with like minded people. they might have some differences, but in general they are all conservative. I could not go particpate with them because they would not agree with me...or would find my theologies to be offensive.

Opening the Proggie board to everyone...(such as Baptists as suggessed in the front page and who are traditionally BAC) would allow conservative folks to come and give voice to their concern, dislike, etc of the more progressive beliefs. It means I have to wade through conservative posts and replies to connect with people who think and live their faith in a similiar manner.

It would be completely disruptive to the BAC girls if I started posting my faith comments. it would hirt their ability to fellowship and connect.

But for some reasons...it is ok to open the Progressive board to that.

The board prior to being made "other" ...was open to all...especially those who do not find themselves agreeing with the BAC board. We were the NON-DENOMINATIOAL alternative to the NON-DENOMINATIONAL conservative board.

Now, we are not an alternative...but a gathering place for them...and everyone else.

(again...i have no problem with a general Christian board...for all theologies, denominations, etc).

But if you offer a distinctly CONSERVATIVE board...for conservatives only. You should offer a distinctly PROGRESSIVE board for lmoderates to liberal only.


AND you should give us non summer time...and more than 2 months to get the board going.

Okay I will reitterate what I said on the other board

Okay sorry if this post goes under lynn's name but I can't seem to find if I am logged in as her or not.

I guess somewhere in my religious studies I lost the progressive christian? I am extremely curious as to what type of church you attend. Is it a bible church or does the name actually have progressive christian in it. Maybe this is something new to the religious world but I have never heard of it.
I personally am glad that there is a non denominational or multi denominational board on her as I may post more. As a non denominational christian I find that many churches fit my idea of christianity and this may be a place where we can discuss issues freely. I dont think you need to worry about discussing your questions freely rather post them and see what happens. As in any other thread you are gonna get people who agree then disagree with you.

GOOD LUCK!
AmericanScrapper


Also Id like to add that I find it offensive that while you are talking about how christian you are and how you want your thread/board back you also use profanity....maybe it is me but isnt that an oxy moron?

BTW I DONT SPELL CHECK!

BTW American Scrapper is my business partner.

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Hello

I am a presbyterian and consider myself progressive. I do not believe homosexuality to be a sin. I do not believe having a glass of alchohol or buying a lottery ticket or using birth-control to be a sin either. While not all conservatives believe all those things I mentioned to be sins, many and even most do believe at least some of those I mentioned are sins.

That is one of the big differences between progressives and the BAC board. I belong to a cristian womens' board not associated with this site and for the most part the progressives and moderates have left the board mainly because not only were they not supported but they're christianity was called into question. I have stayed a part of that board because I feel the need to keep a progressive voice on there so new christians or those considering becoming christian do not get turned off by the mostly conservative voices they hear.

However, I was excited when this board offered a progressive board to post on. I too am disappointed by it being opened to conservatives because like Camille said it will no longer be safe for those of us with liberal viewpoints.

Corrina

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Which is one of the MANY difference between liberal/progressive Christians and BAC one.
For the record...I never actually used profanity. f-ing is a censored version...just like freakin...
Many Conservatives would be so offended by my censored use of a curse word, they would ignore the feelings, intent, question, idea, ect behind the post. So on a liberal board, I could say f-ing and not have to be lectured about my language. Cuz most of the liberals would not be so offended by it.
(not saying conservatives are wrong for being offended...just showing the differences between liberals and progressives).

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Mommy to Maddie-cakes and Jackie-boy

I have to say..the more I think about this..the more I find how we divide up the Christian boards to be a bit confusing...


We have the BAC board...which I guess is suppose to be for for evangelicals...and serves that purpose. Different churches, denominations...but all very conservative thelogically and doctrine wise.

Then we had the multidenominational board...which was suppose to be for a bunch of different denominations (methodist, Lutheran, etc). That board was really conservative too. In fact...most of the posters were from the BAC board. So it was really just a second BAC board.

Of course when no one posted on that board on the new network..it became Progressive...which means liberal. Had folks of diffferent denominations, churches on it. just all very liberal. And now we want it to be the "other board". For all other denominations. But for both conservative and liberals...and moderates... (so again the conservaive have 2 boards to feel comfortable on).


But then there is the Catholic board...the only Christian denomination to have it's own board. yes, Catholics are very different from most evangelical Christians, but they are not the only Christians who have high liturgical rich worships nor are the the only denomination with a long history of dogmas and doctrines.





None of the three christians boards follow the same "rules" of grouping.

One is based on theological beliefs. one is based simple on being christian. And one is a church/denomination.


It just doesn't make sense...
it is not logical. it is not cohesive.


I think the whole lot of the Christian boards needs to be relabeld and redivided. Lets' group them by the same thing.

Either denominations (put the denons that are similiar together):

Board 1: Baptist, Morman, Pentecostal, nondenom, Vineyard, AOG, Congregrational, Reform, JV

Board 2: Methodist, lutheran, presybertian, Disciples, UCC, Metropolitian

Board 3: Catholic, Orthodox, Anglican/Episcopalian, Mennonites, Disciples


or by theological grouping:

Evangelical: take the Bibel literal, Christianity only way, (think Dr Laura, Geroge W Bush, or James Dobson or Jerry Falwell)

Moderate: Bible Word of God...but open to intreptation (Think CS Lweis, Billy Graham, Robert Schuller)

Liberal: Universal salvation is possible, pluralist in views, accepts non cannonical scriptures, etc (Think Bishop Spong , Marcus Borg, Hillary Clinton)

just my late night thoughts.....

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Camille
Mommy to Maddie-cakes and Jackie-boy

I wasn't even aware of the changes!About to go take a look.....

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I post at the BAC boards which i find to be a lot of people of somewhat same thinking as mine though not as extreme as i tend to be. the term BAC though can still have people calling themselves that name though not all believing on the way one becomes born again. I like the board and the people there as there is no swearing which yes i do find does not have its place on a christian board because I believe to be a Christian means to be different/peculiar than those who aren't christians.

I think catholics need their own board because their views differ greatly than other christians. They have views of their own though a lot of protestants tend to follow a lot of catholism with some different doctrinal beliefs.

I have never heard of progressive christians til today though im sure a lot is because im newer to sheknows and im just coming out of the pregnancy areas and exploring.

Baptists are not protestants but i dont believe it would be fair to demand a baptist only board. i have no problem being in the BAC where there is only a small handful of baptists and i am among others who have different views than me.


If you dont like being "other" then you dont have to post there and as you stated you have a board you visit. I think the community directors here are doing a great job with how they have things on this site. If something doesn't fit us the way we want, we can either accept it or we can just not post there.

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Either denominations (put the denons that are similiar together):

Board 1: Baptist, Morman, Pentecostal, nondenom, Vineyard, AOG, Congregrational, Reform, JV

Board 2: Methodist, lutheran, presybertian, Disciples, UCC, Metropolitian

Board 3: Catholic, Orthodox, Anglican/Episcopalian, Mennonites, Disciples


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i just wanted to comment that atleast your board 1.. i dont really see much in common among those listed. Specially when you include mormons.

Mormons should have their own board like the catholics have because their views are very very much different than those of baptist, protestants and even catholics.

The second part wasn't bad of an idea about dividing up such as

the Liberal, moderate, conservative.. and then catholic etc.. Even on the BAC theres some who may find themselves better fitting in a moderate board or something..

The thing is, our community directors are busy and im sure they have more important things to do than to keep breaking and remaking boards specially when its not really needed. It just pleases people but they have busy lives too

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Amanda-Happily married to James (2/01)
Mom to Sarah 5/98, Mikayla 5/01, Tyler 10/02 and Noah 10/03
and expecting a surprise August 2005.

just as a point of Coreection...Baptists are VERY much Protestants.

in fact...they are one of the very first protestant denominations.


The ONLY group fo Christians who are NOT protestants...are Catholics.

A protestant is simply a Christin who does not belive in Papal authority. (Pope as spoke person for God).

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Mommy to Maddie-cakes and Jackie-boy

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( Sorry about the above, but I've learned while posting in the Circ. Board to do this when stating my opinion ) The following is strictly my own opinion. Any questions in this post are just that, questions. There is no hidden attack to any one person or group of people. Refernces of 'their, they, you, he, she, some, ect. ect... ( unless otherwise stated ) are made in general and are in no way to be construed as an attack on any one person &/or group, religious or otherwise.
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I've been reading this and, while not trying to come off as sounding 'high & mighty' I do have to ask about where those who believe/follow Jehovah's Witness? Where would they fit?

I only ask becasue of the fact that while growing up, some our neighbors were and are Jehovah's. Granted that there was a quarter mile seperating us, but I went to school, counrty school at that, with quite a few of them. ( 'them' menaing that some of the kids were older, some younger and some my age, our country school was K-8th grades )

Also adding, that I am realted to Catholics. I'm a Methodist who married a Lutheran My dad told us kids that he was raised a Christian Scientist, his sister married a Catholoic and joined that church. I even have a cousin who joined and follows the Rev. Moon. And he still is a follower even after some other members pushed him down an elevator shaft and then walked him to a Veteran's Hospital when he survived the fall. Sorry to get off topic there, I'll behave now

Anyhoo, I truly believe that there are way too many groups of religious/religions out there to try and group them. Someone will be left out, not intentionaly mind you, but left out all the same.

About dividing the groups up into Liberal, Progessive, Conservitave, ect.... What about those who may be Liberal in one belief, ( as an example only here ) such as gambling, Conservitave in another way, i.e. ( another example only ) drinking and Progressive in yet another way, i.e. ( another example only ) Gay/Lesbian Marriages. Are those people to only restrict themselves to one board only? And if they post on one board, if those are the divisions, are they then to restrict themselves to that one board only, because of a previous post? ( the above examples are the only ones I could think of to use for examples. They are not meant to be taken as my opinions or anyone elses opinions )

This topic reminds me of the Circ board. There are many who post there that are very much against Circ. They seem to, at times , outnumebr those who are for circ'ing. I refuse to call anyone a 'Pro-Circ' or 'Anti-Circ'! That is just me. Sadly, some will, and have attacked others who do not believe in their way of thinking. And, very sadly, it goes both ways.

I guess I'm just a bit confuzzled as to how these boards could be either renamed or regrouped. I keep thinking about how, "You can't please everyone all of the time." And "You can't please all of the people all of the time" or even some of the time, in some cases

Anyhoo, I've got reunion booklets to print and 4-H stuff to deal with so I'll shut my yap for now anyways!

Peace
Nancy S.

List of Protestant denominations:


http://encarta.msn.com/encnet/refpag...efid=210055103

well i already answered this on the BAC board.... so i wont post again here about the facts on baptists not being protestant. But you are entitled to your opinion. Everyone has them and not all of them are right

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Amanda-Happily married to James (2/01)
Mom to Sarah 5/98, Mikayla 5/01, Tyler 10/02 and Noah 10/03
and expecting a surprise August 2005.