Hi friends,

Well I am awaiting a call to see how many eggs are being retrievd as I type this.
we are not getting as near as close to amount as expected - i will let you you all know very soon. I will never share a donor again!!!!

Furthermore my uterine lining did not get thick enough to transfer. SO all the embies if any will be frozen. Maybe the Lupron suppressed me too IMHO much and not enough estrace although i was doubling up at the end. I did have a TL 5-6mm.

The director wold ahve transferred but i got a gut instinct it wasn't the right thing, although I have a great implantation rate if there isn't a great lining whats the use?

Anyone else have this happen???


So Jacq stick me in waiting for Af due in 8-9 days or so.

Frozen transfer (FET) set for march 6

i am really pissed off, and have a feeling after ER I will be even more pissed off.

Anyhow that is my first expereince with ART and may be the last.

Hope you all are doing better.

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Melissa mama to "Miracle Twins" Christian Chance & Lleyton Noble 10/2003 Zoe Honor 14yrs Dylan 16yrs

7 much loved and wanted Embabies FET set for ??
Praying for our LAST CYCLE USING MY EGGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm so sorry things didn't go as well as expected Melissa. But... I have a friend who has beeen through mulitple IVFs, who is now expecting her third IVF baby in April. She tells me they always tell her not to worry about her lining, and she says she is the queen of thin linings. So... maybe it's not all that crucial? I don't know. I wish I had something more encouraging to say. I'm thinking of you and Barb constantly.

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They offered to go through with it.
Can you ask your friend what her mm was???

I said maybe we should wait, all I know is the the standard is greater tan 6mm and IE or TL I had the the TL on the 31st I was 5-6mm and 2/2 I was down to 5mm I thought my lining was breaking down.

I was scared, no one to give me advice, even then nurses said she didn't know what to do.

They said when I do it again if we get the same reading small lining then that will be "normal" for me.

HOWEVER if we don't get enough fertilised eggs and they don't survive the thaw they will be nothing to transfer.

THATS what I am upset about it the most.
20K CDN dollars for this?

Another bite out of the **** sandwich day.

Furthermore the van broke down AGAIN I no one stopped to help me -14 weather on the freeway middle of the night l almost froze to death
I guess I am really feeling sorry for myself now.

I also feel very angry, and full of grief, grief for my child that will never be that God intended for him to be cos of a doctors mistake.

Honestly if things had gone differently with the twins I wouldn't be here today, most likely

I am cutting this from a post to a yahoo support group I was writing before I saw your reply
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Too many issues to list, nothing ever seems to go our way, or maybe am i not counting my blessings, perhaps I am unable to at this time. WTF

I don't know what to say or what to write or who to talk to to..
I don't think I even know know what to say.

Grief and anger are very familiar to my ears today.

If only this
If only that

I wish "they" would say just hang in there, evrythng will turn out,
don't worry it will be okay, or will have a positive outcome

It didn't have a positive outcome thats why I am here
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What a loser-ish attitude I have eh......

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Melissa mama to "Miracle Twins" Christian Chance & Lleyton Noble 10/2003 Zoe Honor 14yrs Dylan 16yrs

7 much loved and wanted Embabies FET set for ??
Praying for our LAST CYCLE USING MY EGGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Melissa .........{{{ I am so sorry}}} your transfer is put off but I
think I would of done the exact same thing to see if indeed my lining
was better in March.....then if it is you'll know for sure.
I think if you proceeded with the transfer and it didnt give you
yr bfp you'd be kicking yourself.....so better to be sure then not know
kwim?
My donor I dont believe is even stimming yet........
I will be waiting for af after Feb10......then I start with the baseline
u/s and labs before I start my Estrogen patches.
I too am scared to death!.....b/c this deivf will be all that Tom & I
can afford to do to make our little family..........
and with no children onboard yet this is wiggin me out.
I wish you so much success in March.........Ill be right behind you
with our ET first week of March as well............thats if all goes
as planned.........but then again you cant plan.

Sending hugs and prayers yr way!

pss...Thxs Jac for keeping us in yr thoughts and well wishes.


Barb

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Hi Melissa.

My heart goes out to you. Of course nothing I say can offer any comfort. I hope you posted your questions about lining on the IVF board. Haven't been over there yet but I know they will have alot of good advise. I thought that 8+ was really good. I did a IUI/hyperstimulation cycle and mine was only 6 on one cycle and so I started taking my prometrium right away to thicken up the lining. I probably would have chosen the FET at a later date especially if all was not feeling right. Too bad the clinic could not give you their educated opinion on what route you should take. When will you know how many embabies you have?
I do know that feeling of anger after you have forked out all that $$$$$$(however I have not shelled out the amount you have) and the clinic give you no guarantees and charges you for absolutely everything. It just really sucks.
I also know the feeling of no one to talk to to help you make these tough decisions. I'm am trying to decide on whether to proceed with my IVF at 42 years of age with my own eggs and no one really gives any input and I'm truly on my own with this decision. Would be nice to hear "follow your dream, etc.".....I will pray for you that you have lots to put on ice.
Wish I could make you feel better.
All is not lost.....you have much hope with a FET and by then you may be less stressed and worried and irritated.

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I'm sorry you are so frustrated. I seem to remember her lining was between 5 and 6. Heck mine was 5.6 not too long ago, and that was while taking aspirin. It may just be normal for you. I'm sorry but I am not currently on speaking terms with my friend, so I just have to go by memory.

Pray about it Melissa. You have to have peace about your decision.

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Where did I come from?" the baby asked its mother. She answered, half-crying, half-laughing, and clasping the baby to her breast: "You were hidden in my heart as its desire, my darling. You were in the dolls of all my childhood games. In all my hopes and my loves, in my life, in the life of my mother, and in her mother before her, you have lived."
--Rabindranath Tagore

Jacq they wouldn't advise a transfer under 6mm, although the director of the clinic wold have gone through with it, she said the other docs were more realistic. Funny thing is it started to shrink THAT was what worried me, in 2 days from a 6 to 5.

I heard I have 12 eggs.
Realistically we may get 7-8 fertilised, on top of that we may have to ICSI them which another 1 thousand dollars!

SOOOOOO if we freeze whatever we have left and 95% survival rate we may get 4-5 to FET.

The embryologist said that she didnt think I would have less than 4 come FET time in march.

I am going personally to the director and advising him that I want ALL whatever the amount implanted. Even if its only 2-3.

I DO NOT want to keep going back to implant 1-2 (for example) if we had 4-5 left. I want them all done and over with.
I need to move on.

I also told them use up all the donor sperm cos we 1 in a million wouldn't use the same donor.

Next time of there is a next I will SOLE donor so we get a few tries at it.
It costs more initally but this way it was a HUGE gamble that has worse odds then blackjack.

I am feeling a bit better that the women who is doing the fert in lab has been doing it for 21 yrs and is very supportive of me, as yall know I was/am devastated.

I am feeling better now that i know we have a decent amount eggs albeit we will see how many embies we get.

The weird thing as i reflect is that when i finished BCP and started Lupron I NEVER got AF and I was supposed to get AF before starting cycle when I read the website notes.

MAYBE this should have been taken into consideration.

I will write an email to the nurse in charge and remind her this detail.

GOOOD GOD I actaully wanted and paid to go thru this, I can't believe myself some days! I should have bought a dog! LOL

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Melissa mama to "Miracle Twins" Christian Chance & Lleyton Noble 10/2003 Zoe Honor 14yrs Dylan 16yrs

7 much loved and wanted Embabies FET set for ??
Praying for our LAST CYCLE USING MY EGGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Please let me know how things progresses. If I could make it happen for you, I would.

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Where did I come from?" the baby asked its mother. She answered, half-crying, half-laughing, and clasping the baby to her breast: "You were hidden in my heart as its desire, my darling. You were in the dolls of all my childhood games. In all my hopes and my loves, in my life, in the life of my mother, and in her mother before her, you have lived."
--Rabindranath Tagore