Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I gave him 4 *basic* rules and told him when he could acknowledge those rules that he could call us.

He replied that he isn't "kissing butt" so I doubt he will call.

My fear is that if he cannot grasp the concept that he is no longer a father the rest of this is never going to work. He has to respect our family unit and be willing to introduced into it and not the other way around.

I'm going to stick to my guns. I was plain, up front, and hard nosed with the rules...the rest is up to him. Here are the rules:

1) You have to follow rules established by guardians because it is a prerequisite to see the children.
2) You will not be referred to as "daddy" but as "Greg".
3) You will not have any control over when/where/how you visit the kids...this is decided by the parents.
4) You will recognize that you have no parental rights and therefore will not send long emails or instant messages concerning what you believe you"deserve".

These are the rules. When you feel you can follow them please contact us. We will not be contacting you, it is not our position to do so. We understand the rules and legalities. Your email and IM properties are being blocked therefore telephone contact is the only way for you to agree with this.

There will be no compromising by the legal parents.


Perhaps I should have just stated these in the beginning...it might have given him less room to feel that he could "barter" with me.